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Great Secrets: Nostradamus Giveaway

Game Giveaway of the day — Great Secrets: Nostradamus

Discover the Elixir of Eternal Youth as you join the great Michel Nostradamus
User rating: 56 (81%) 13 (19%) 41 comments

Great Secrets: Nostradamus was available as a giveaway on September 10, 2016!

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Discover the Elixir of Eternal Youth as you join the great Michel Nostradamus on his adventures and unravel Great Secrets! Travel through the pages of Nostradamus’s diary, and meet the famous people of his epoch. Enrich yourself with new knowledge and learn about the world around you in this fantastic Hidden Object game. Discover the secrets hidden in Nostradamus’s prophecies and much more in Great Secrets: Nostradamus!

Game features:

  • Amazing levels;
  • Awesome minigames;
  • Discover Great Secrets!

System Requirements:

Windows XP/ Vista/ 7/ 8; CPU: 600 Mhz; RAM: 128 MB; DirectX: 7.0; Hard Drive: 46 MB





File Size:

43.9 MB



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Great Secrets: Nostradamus

In Brief

An older (7 years old) Hidden Object Game from MyPlayCity, with the checkboxes removed. The Hidden Object puzzles are interdisperesed with the usual mini games :)

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If you like or don't like today's game please give some feedback about your opinion of the game, for example, what did you like about the game, or how it could be improved from your point of view . If you don't like this genre at all, please explain why. What improvements would change your opinion? There are thousands of subscribers to the game giveaway of the day every weekend which makes this an ideal forum for giving developers ideas as to what their consumers (i.e you) would like to see in a game. For example, you could suggest extra content such as better or more original mini games, or a level editor that you would like to see that would make it more appealing to you. Maybe you think the graphics are a little dated and are in need of re skinning, or maybe you've just had enough of the genre and want to see something different or something with more originality?

If you miss today's game giveaway you can always get the game via MyPlayCity 24/7 HERE.

The game downoads to an 43.9 MB zip file that unzips to three files, (a setup.gcd securinty wrapper), the set up file and a read me). Those with multiple hard drives are able to save games on any drive they wish. The installed game is 54.6 MB, much smaller than most newer HOG's. The game installs to the following path by default, but can be changed by the user if you wish:

C:\Program Files (x86)\MyPlayCity.com\Great Secrets - Nostradamus

Four shortcuts are installed to the desktop. three of which can be safely deleted (Play Online Games, MyPlayCity Games and shortcuts to a free online game which vary each week). Also, if you don't like icons installed to the quick launch task bar, make sure you uncheck the box when the additional tasks window appears (after the Select Start Menu Folder window)

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Discover the Elixir of Eternal Youth as you join the great Michel Nostradamus on his adventures and unravel Great Secrets! Travel through the pages of Nostradamus’s diary, and meet the famous people of his epoch. Enrich yourself with new knowledge and learn about the world around you in this fantastic Hidden Object game. Discover the secrets hidden in Nostradamus’s prophecies and much more in Great Secrets: Nostradamus!

Reference accessed HERE. 10th Sept 2016

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If you have a problem installing or activating or getting Great Secrets: Nostradamus to work please visit the problems section, which I've now incorporated into the FAQ's thread, and which you can find HERE

The Game:

Great Secrets: Nostradamus is a standard HOG with hidden object levels interdispersed with various mini games that include relatively easy jigsaw puzzles of great art works such as the Mona Lisa or related to alchemical mechanisms, (connect the wires to light up the lamps etc. There's a story running throughout the game in the form of pages written in a diary.

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The game is several years old, so don't expect the spectacular graphics or animations we see in more recent releases; however, the game still looks pretty good. There are two modes; for those who like easy and relaxing game play experiences with no time limit there is a casual mode. The other mode is advanced mode which is generally for experience players or those who like a challenge. In this mode there is a time limit to completing a level and time penalties for random clicking.

I've not had time to play the game for more than half an hour so far, so can't say much else about the game at this time.

Reference accessed HERE. 10th August 2016

Other Reviews, Walkthrough/Strategy Guides and Videos:

You can read Big Fish community member reviews of Great Secrets: NostradamusHERE as well as other questions about the game in the Big Fish forums HERE. You can also see some walkthroughs HERE and/or HERE
. There are also a few videos of Great Secrets: Nostradamus game play ..............(Spoiler Alert)............. HERE, HERE and HERE,

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I enjoyed the short time I played this old HOG. The mini games aren't that easy, it make s amokery of including them. It took me several minutes to complete the Mona Lisa jig saw puzzle and the second mini game that involved connecting wires to light lamps, although not very challenging was still interesting enough for me to continue. Hidden Objects are fairly easy to spot, though it did take me several minutes to find all of the scrolls in the first HOG puzzle. Overall I would recommend downloading this game. if you liked the previous game in the series, i.e. Great Secrets: Da Vinci, you're certain to like this one. I'd score this an average 7 out of ten for game play and overall enjoyment.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank MyPlyCity for giving away the second game in the Great Secrets franchise minus the checkboxes and also to the game giveaway team, as always, for providing a safe environment to download free games.

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Useful Information:
The problems section that used to be posted here in the Game review is now included in the Game Discussion FAQ's thread; which you can find HERE.

I've updated the games section that used to be posted with the review. The thread is now called 'Weekly round up of game deals', formerly the games section of the weekly reviews. You can find the new thread (which I've posted in the sticky section of the game discussion forums to make it easier to find if you are perusing the game discussion forums) HERE.

If today's game wasn't to your liking, you may find other games either free or for less than the price of a cup of coffee (from your favorite coffee house) via the 'Weekly Roundup of Game Deals' thread which I've posted a link to above, or HERE.
The latest free game over on Origin is still Nox. You can get it HERE. Please note that you do require the Origin game platform to be able to download and install the game. Also, the PC version of ALERT: SECTOR 8 (a traditional Shoot Em Up)is also still available over on Failmids Shareware-on-sale site or HERE. If you spend over a dollar in the Indie Gala store (they have some excellent bundle deals, but these are excluded from the offer) you will also get a free copy of the excellent trials bike racer Nail'd. If you spand over a dollar buying a game from the Kiss developer bundle (via Indie Gala Store) you get TWO free games Nail'd and the retro twin stick shooter Horizon Shift with the sound track.

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I've still not sorted the keys I owe to a few community members. .Because of my computer woes, the list of keys I have were locked away. The computer is now fixed, but I still have to reinstall windows as the present installation, although working has developed some unusual problems such as not being able to access the start menu, many of the functions in the context menus are missing, plus other oddities. Hopefully I'll be emailing those keys to you very soon, (finally). If you think you have a key coming for commenting on a game back in June, please remind me over in the game discussion forums, and mention the comment you made, thank you. I want to make sure i've given out all of the keys I promised. Hopefully, once I've cleared those up i'll offer more keys as there's still quite a long list in the thread I posted in the Game discussion forums. Once the Whiterabbits Reviews site is officially open (see the next paragraph for details), I will be offering codes for various games regularily.

I'd like to to give a massive thank you to Whizzy or Mavadelo (his Steam name), who has created a review site for me. I am talking to him via Team Speak over the coming weeks while he tutors me in the ins and outs of the site. The site won't go live right away as I want to post lots of game reviews. It will be a combination of arcade and AAA game reviews, some old and some new, divided into appropriate genres. We intend avoiding any advertising, so the site should be safe to peruse without worrying about clicking on links that may send you to rougue sites or ad's. I will also try to post reviews of new releases. At least those that I purchase and we intend to include a free games section as well as regular game giveaways, though not like here as the games will be coming from my own personal stock of spare game codes. Most will be Steam codes (literally thousands of them), but I also have hundreds of other codes for Itch.io, Origin, UPlay and others. Although the site is nowhere near ready, you can now check it out HERE, thought there's not much to see yet. If you have any suggestions as to what you'd like to see, please post them in the forums HERE. As yet there is no forum topics, but there will be soon. You do need to register to post in the forums. I will announce when the site is fully functional as soon as we can get it ready. :)

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Once the review site is open I will still continue to post my reviews here first every weekend and moderate as always. I'm hoping the new site will invigorate me, which can only be a good thing with respect to my reviews here, as I have lost a lot of impetus over the last few years, and especially recently since the changes. I will be having regular giveaways of my own on the new site, but nothing like what we get here as my giveaways are all paid for by me and will be limited to one or a few of each game offered, though I do have several copies of quite a few games to give away. As mentioned previously, I have around 10 000 Steam keys and several hundred other keys for other platforms such as Origin, Itch.io and Desura, many of which will be up for grabs. Most of the games are low budget indie games and arcade games (up to $20), but I do have lots of more expensive indie and AAA game keys to give away, (most will be awarded in exchange for appropriate reviews, other comments about games in general and maybe some competitions). Some of the AAA games I have spare that will be available to the community include X-Com: Enemy Unknown, Civilization V, Aliens vs Predator, ArmA II & 3, Batman Arkham City and Arkham Origins, Baldurs Gate Enhanced, Deadly Premonition, Battlefield 3, Gas Guzzlers Extreme Gold, All three of the original Company of Heroes, Defense Grid 2, several copies of Call of Juarez, Disciples II: Gallean's Return, King Arthur - The Role-playing Wargame, Max Payne 3, Dragon Age Origins, Far Cry 3, Front Lines: Fuel of War, Grid, a couple of the GTA titles, Rage, Omerta - City of Gangsters, Mount & Blade: Warband and lots of others. I haven't posted a list of my Steam keys, but you can see the spare games I have in my main Steam account inventory HERE. There are roughly 350 games, quite a few of which will be up for grabs at some point in time. To give those away we will need to connect via Steam and befriend each other. The rest of the keys ( a massive collection of indie and arcade titles which I've spent literally hundreds of hours trying to sort into some semblence of order are as yet unlisted) I can email to you. Once listed I have to put them in alphabetical order. Anyone know of a program that can do that automatically?

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Reply   |   Comment by Whiterabbit-uk  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+2)

Whiterabbit-uk, you wrote: "Once listed I have to put them in alphabetical order. Anyone know of a program that can do that automatically?" Textpad (.com) is a very powerful text editor (not word processor) that supports macro recording and a variety of text manipulation abilities (and lately, even textfile comparison).

It's basically Notepad on steroids rather than trying to compete in the desktop publishing arena like Word with its columns and fonts. Among its features it will sort lines of text alphanumerically. I haven't tried the unregistered version in about a decade and a half (it's been around longer than that with ongoing improvements) but the trial version might let you do what you describe. :)

Everyone else, sorry about the non-game related post but there's no way to send a private message. WR, you can delete this message if you'd rather.

Reply   |   Comment by Dan  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+9)


I hear Excel works pretty well too

Reply   |   Comment by Fafda  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)


then also libreoffice, openoffice.org and similar software (open source and free to use).

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

Better a late comment than not one at all. I've recently started this game. The puzzles are mostly good, although some are rather too easy. The hidden object scenes are far too small, dark and blurry. The 'story' is too gabby and gets in the way. I'll probably finish it, but won't play again.

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Hi Sieska, I totally agree. The comments about a game do not need to be posted on the actual day as access to every game ever given away on this site and all of the comments made about those games are still available with just a few extra clicks of the mouse. Thank you for posting your feedback. appreciated. The earlier games given away years ago will take a little more effort to see, but they are still available :)

Reply   |   Comment by Sieska Cowdrey  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Great Secrets:Nostradamus is a nice game with 40 levels. Hidden object, match the outline, find the differences, complete puzzle pictures with rotation or swap. Nice piano music. Skip buttons for all conversations-a huge plus since the game is loaded with conversations you must click through but also contains background information on dozens of famous people. The only downside is that many of the graphics are very small, dark, and difficult to see. Playing in window mode, those are very tiny, and in full screen, the images are not sharp which can present a challenge.

Reply   |   Comment by Barbara  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Good puzzle game for the younger set, I believe. I found the puzzles pretty standard but still a little challenging. The cut scenes I mostly skipped. A child or teen might find them interesting but I'm afraid I did not.

The colors contrast was the most challenging thing for my middle aged eyes. Another check in the "younger set" box. Overall, not a bad game, but I'll probably only spend a few minutes here and there on it, as opposed to a longer run. Would recommend to families.

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Thank you for your feedback Rose, appreciated.

Reply   |   Comment by Rose  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Downloaded the Zip file this afternoon, but after 10 hours of attempting to run the EXE, I continue to receive a "Failed to Connect. Please try again later" message. I do realize this is free, but one would expect the installation to work; I've never had issues with your free games in the past.

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Hi Michelle, really sorry for the late reply. It's likely your security software blocked the installation due to the Themida wrapper that is used to protect the games executable. Due to unscrupulous community members ripping the original wrapper and then placing the exposed executable onto peer to peer sites where it was then freely available after the giveaway period ended, the giveaway team were forced to add the Themida wrapper, which, becasue of it's effectivness cann and is also used to hide malicious code, some security suites will automatically flag the giveaway wrapper as suspect, so the game won;t install. you either need to configure your security to allow the file to be processed, or to turn off your security temporarily until the game has been installed. There has never been a game given away here that was infected. The giveaway team thoroughly check all files before the community can download them. unfortunately my reply has come too late for you to install the giveaway; however, the MyPlayCity version, which I've linked to in my review at the top of the comments is exactly the same game apart from when you start to install the game, the first installation window has three check-boxes that you need to uncheck before you allow the installation. If you don't you will find your home page has been changed to MyPlayCity, your browser may have been changed and you may have toolbars. Some of the MPC games also put a checkbox on every time you boot up the game, so you need to make sure any check-boxes that appear are unchecked. Once unchecked, the game is exactly the same.

Reply   |   Comment by Michelle  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

Oops...I suppose I should mention that I do meet the minimum requirements listed. WinXP SP3, 3 GB RAM, 2.4 GHz CPU x 4, 381 GB free on my hard drive, and of course an Internet connection.

Reply   |   Comment by Michelle  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

It's O.K. but nothing startling. Graphics are a bit poor. Makes it hard to see small hidden objects.

Reply   |   Comment by Larry Carter  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

I posted this awhile back. If you don't see your cursor, go to options and play around with your touchpad until you can uncheck either full screen or

Reply   |   Comment by ron goodin  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

ron goodin,
Sorry posted by mistake. Here's my re-post.

I posted this awhile back. If you don't see your cursor, go to options and play around with your touchpad until you can uncheck either full screen or stylized cursor. Once you uncheck stylized cursor, you've got your pointer.

Reply   |   Comment by ron goodin  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

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Please excuse the slow moderation today. Been rather distracted. Decided to have a movie fest today and watch all four alien films. i bought the quadrilogy some years ago and have been meaning to watch them for ages. I bought the aliens Zen pinball pack which inspired me to watch the movies. ''Game over man, game over!'', classic lines, which they use whenever you lose playing the Aliens pinball table. Bill Paxton won a golden globe for his part in the second movie.

I'll reply to any questions when I get up in the morning, need to retire for the night. getting late at almost 1am

Reply   |   Comment by Whiterabbit-uk  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

Win10 64bit Home. An old game I once loved and I didn't think this game would work but after changing the compatiability mode to the same as a previous game, it has worked.

Right click the games icon> Properties>Compatibility Tick Run this program in compatible mode for Wndows 7. Tick Run in 640 x 480 screen and tick Disable display scaling on high DPI settings. Apply.

Reply   |   Comment by Suzanne  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+3)

Great Secrets: Nostradamus
Another MyPlayCity game (TY MPC and GGAOTD for providing us with these games) which always download and install well. Loaded up and played smoothly, found the history and information interesting, the games and some of the puzzles not so much so. Although my daughter had fun with some of the puzzles, others seemed just a bit irritating, as others have pointed out obvious objects in a screen just generate a error msg.
Full disclosure though, HOG games are not one of my favs, but she likes some of the puzzles and the history and tips are informative, so will keep around a while :)
Also, know some are irritated by the MyPlayCity games opening up a browser window upon shutting down a game, but a small thing to pay for providing us w/otherwise free games, and yes I know there is a 'hack' to stop it, but I choose to keep it as a way of thanking them and GGOTD for giving us these.
Another thing about them (MPC) is the site only keeps track of what games you've looked at and what game you came from, no directed advertising, no trackers that follow you everywhere on the web! At least as of this writing, so better than many places, and again, a small price to pay for providing us games.

Reply   |   Comment by JBurt  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

I really like the different mini games in this and it could be a really good game except that the resolution is too low. Even with the help button I had trouble finding the knife in the hidden object scene.

Also, I got a phone call while working on the Mona Lisa puzzle and I had not finished it but the game said 'congratulations' and dumped me out of that puzzle. Strange

Reply   |   Comment by NgA  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

I downloaded this game and played a short way in. The story is kind of flimsy, but that's not a huge deal; I'm here for the puzzles.

One thing I noticed about the multi-item hidden object puzzle. It asked me to find a wagon wheel. There are two wagon wheels suspended from the ceiling, but those weren't the ones it wanted, and clicking on them produced an error icon. It wanted a different wagon wheel. It also wanted an apple. There was a basket of apples sitting in one corner, but none of those apples were the right one; it wanted a different apple.

This is really annoying. In a hidden object game, the object the game is looking for should be the only one of its type on the screen. Having to click through a bunch of red herrings isn't fun. The challenge should be in finding the objects in the clutter of the screen, not clicking through a bunch of "wrong" objects to find the right one.

Reply   |   Comment by Angie Penrose  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+5)

The last several games I have downloaded I have not been able to find the exe file to open the game. It just isn't there. I have never had this problem before. I am running Windows 10, but like I said this has only happened lately?

Reply   |   Comment by Barbara J Smith  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

I see that the great apple-picker and bird-fetcher, Da Vinci, from the other Great Secrets game has appeared here...

Reply   |   Comment by Fafda  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+2)

Downloaded easily using OneClick and Win10.

When I opened the setup folder and clicked the appropriate file Windows told me it couldn't open the file location, or something, and then did it anyway.

The game loaded smoothly although probably a fair bit more slowly than more modern games. Easy enough to change to windowed and to adjust the sound volumes and then select 'casual' - I don't really like timed games very much.

The game itself seems is a hidden object with some decent enough puzzles in between each of the HOG scenes. The hint button does recharge quite slowly, which is quite handy because in the smallish window some of the items are really quite tiny.

The storyline seems a bit contrived, but aren't they all. It doesn't detract from what I've seen of the game so far.

Thanks GGOT and MPC. I don't mind the desktop links because they're easy enough to delete, and nor do I mind being taken to the MPC site when I close the game.

Reply   |   Comment by Mum  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

W10 64 pc
Resolution is too low for desktop using, varieties of graphic loosing a lot because of that. Making 2 two editions - for PC and small gadgets?

Santa Claus pretending to be da Vinci? come on...

Reply   |   Comment by apelsinno  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Hi apelsinno. :-)

Maybe are you using a bigger scaling?
Did you try to "disable display scaling on high dpi settings" (in the properties - compatibility tab of the game shortcut)?

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+3)

After the game fully loads, there is no visible cursor.
I had to abort the game via task manager to end it.

Using Win10.

Reply   |   Comment by Linda  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Game is slow and clunky in Full Screen mode. Plays fine in Windowed mode, but it's too small to play a HOG. Had the same issue with 1 or 2 other games from MPC, but most play fine on my machine. Win 10 with ATI graphics card.

Reply   |   Comment by Semo  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Hi Semo. :-)

In fact I forgot to write I substituted the game cursor with the windows cursor: it was better.
Maybe you could try the same.

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Thank you MyPlayCity for giving away the second game in the Great Secrets franchise minus the check boxes and also to the game giveaway team, as always, for providing a safe environment to download free games.

BECAUSE I am way Way WAY too lazy to uncheck two check boxes on the MyPlayCity website, and it it isn't a safe environment to download games anyway.

There is nudity in the screenshots.

Reply   |   Comment by Swamp Thing  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

D/L'd and installed fine on Win 8.1 and plays with no problem "full screen" (which still is a window with a black border). This is VERY similar to Da Vinci from last week and as a matter of fact is a continuation of that story, with hidden object games (and the same very dark graphics, which isn't so great) interspersed with (so far) relatively easy mini-games that are really nice for variety. Not very much of a challenge even in timed mode and kinda repetitious coming on top of DaVinci from last time, but certainly a pleasant way to pass a few hours so definitely recommended for free, though I'd want much more if I were going to pay for it :).

I'm so relieved that it seems that the weekend giveaways are mostly back to the "normal", "less hoops" style instead of requiring steam signups, contests, etc. which seem to be mostly during the week now. Thanks to all!

Reply   |   Comment by neme  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+6)

Cannot play this game because the cursor is not visible.

Reply   |   Comment by Dorine  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

Installed okay on my W10 laptop but refuses to allow me to choose full screen. I really can't be bothered playing around with my screen resolution to see if that works because it messes up my desktop icons. Maybe it'll work better in compatibility mode.
Installed okay on my W8.1 desktop. It defaults to full screen but the game cursor is invisible. I managed to change to windowed mode and I could see the cursor. I deselected Game Cursor and now I can see the normal cursor in windowed and full screen mode.

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Thank you for your feedback Jerry. I usually play the games given away here in windowed mode so that I can take screen captures using the free snipping tool that comes with Win 7 onward. I'm wondering whether the default to windowed mode in your first attempt is something to do with maybe a previous game from MPC being played in windowed mode and because of that, there's either a registry entry that automatically starts the game in windowed mode or some saved data in the hidden 'App Data' folder. Whether this is so, I can't say for certain, but it could explain why it defaulted to windowed on that particular computer of yours.

I installed the demo of the game initially so that I could get a feel for the game before it was released. when I installed the giveaway version it automatically went to windowed mode as well as to where I'd left the game, despite getting the demo from Big Fish (BFG). Obviously any save data is saved in exactly the same place, despite the BFG version being connected to the BFG client.

Reply   |   Comment by Jerry  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

Hi Jerry. :-)

WinDefender, Gridinsoft antimalware, SAS free, MBAM free don't complain about the software.

Installed without problems on my machine: Win10Homex64 (with all updates), WinFirewall, DEP AlwaysOn, custom scaling level 150%, res 1920x1080 (color depth 32bit, refresh rate 60p Hz, if these mean something...).

The game seems to work/start well after I disabled the "display scaling" (in the properties - compatibility tab of the game shortcut).

I don't usually try the game soon after I installed it (I just check if it works)...

Thanks for the game to GGAOTD, MyPlayCity, BigFishGames and the wonderful moderator Whiterabbit-uk!

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Thanks xilolee, hope my rant as a fanboy of Steam wasn't too boring, lol

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (-1)

Hi whiterabbit-uk. :-)

I think I'm going to have to try it some time in the future. :)

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

Jerry, I had the same problem of no curser in my Win 10 64. I tried xilolee's idea of disabling the display scaling. It didn't make a difference. I still have no curser. It's impossible to play that way. You have to move the cursor all over the place trying to get it to find the button even to start. I can't play it.

Reply   |   Comment by Scott  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

We want steam games dam it :/

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More will be coming. Presently there are a couple of weeks worth of traditional arcade games in the admin panel listings, with one steam key release (100 keys) of a reasonable adventure/platformer game that normally costs $10. I already have that particular game, so won't be joining the competition.

Reply   |   Comment by Dave  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (-17)

Hi Dave. :-)

YOU want, not WE. ;-)

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I used to avoid any game that made it necessary to install a client until I purchased two games from Direct to Drive almost 8 years ago that at the time I didn't realize required Steam to be installed. I complained to Direct to Drive but was told they were Steamwork games. I'd not realized steam work games were Steam only. I wanted to play both games so badly as at the time I was really into both genres i.e. bowling games and tower defense and it turned out the particular tower defense game that I purchased is still one of the best TD games around (Defense Grid: The Awakening) and the bowling game was the half decent Galactic Bowling. I vowed not to purchase any more games via Steam, but within a week I'd noticed that the Steam store, which at the time opened by default whenever I booted up Steam, showed a particular sale where six indie games had been bundled together and were selling for less than the price of just one of the games and it happened that of those six, four were games I really wanted to play, so I purchased the bundle. I soon realized they had weekly and later daily sales, with games selling at upwards of 75% or more off the usual price. At the time, no other client based system were selling games so cheaply and so regularly reduced, so my Steam library grew at an almost exponential rate (my Steam library now has almost 9000 games listed not including free and free to play games). I realize having so, many games, makes it almost impossible to play many of them to the end, but I do usually play upwards of 8 hours every day (pain management reasons) and am never at a loss when it comes to playing something I'm really into as well as discovering new games. Over the intervening years, I've made several very good friends via Steam, three of which I was chatting to last night via my Team Speak channel and Steam messenger and will be playing coop games with this evening with a couple of them. Also, sales continue to be an ever present feature, as well as fantastic community features , plus a workshop where mods and extra content for thousands of games are now available to add to your games with just a few clicks of your mouse and, all can be removed with just a couple more clicks if you find those mods conflict. Steam has become much more than a game client and now I couldn't live without it despite hating drm. There are now over 125 million active Steam users and over 6 million users are playing games via Steam at any one time, so I doubt we will see the demise of the Steam client any time soon. Even if Steam did die, there would be ways found to be able to play all or most of the games tied up in Steam. I don't know how many games you can play without using the client, but I have on occasion gone into the Steam folder and have been able to boot up games directly from the installed games executable without Steam being logged in and they have worked perfectly, though you definitely can't do it with every game. Unfortunately DRM is here to stay. Even GOG are now trying to get you to install a client based system and are also trying to emulate Steam in so many ways. Of course they still offer DRM free games, but I reckon that will decline as time goes by because of the number of games that people share with their friends instead of individuals paying for the games has risen sharply since the advent of GOG. Ultimately it's the gaming community that has forced such devices on us by cheating the system.

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+8)

xilolee, quite agree!

Reply   |   Comment by TK  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)


Yes or No to Steam - *Maybe* this will help.

Once someone decides to create & sell a game, they have 2 immediate issues beyond making the game itself -- how & where to sell it & what to do about DRM. Steam is the leading provider of both, plus as WR mentions, there are Steam's community features that may or may not matter to individual gamers. To help manage things Steam uses minimally intrusive client software that has a minimal impact on Windows -- in that respect it's not much [if at all] different than Apple, Amazon, Microsoft's store, Big Fish, Google Play etc.

Most companies that have consumer products of any sort choose not to sell them themselves, e.g. I can't buy Campbell's soup from Campbell, but I can buy it from most any retailer that sells groceries. Making a product is very different from distribution &/or sales. For a company to be successful creating games they have to sell those games, & currently most feel that their best, if not only option is via Steam. That could change -- Microsoft would love it if their store in Windows 10 became dominant -- but for now, almost in the same category as death & taxes, Steam is a fact of life for most gamers.

So if you're hesitant, or don't like Steam, that's perfectly fine -- you almost certainly don't like death & taxes either. Most of us do pay our taxes however, everyone dies, & most gamers use Steam. There's nothing at all wrong about complaining about it, though do remember that complaining in general is more likely to get a negative rather than positive response. And if you don't use a service, you of course don't get whatever benefits that service has to offer -- with Steam that means you won't get access to any games exclusive to Steam.

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Thank you for your response Mike, There will always be lovers and haters of anything man has to offer, or for that matter nature. As far as I'm concerned, if someone absolutely hates Steam, then that's their business, but as you imply, not using it will discount that person from benefits. In my opinion more benefits than the negatives that Steam comes with. Personally I've been using steam since January 2009 and although initially hating it, have come to love the client for several reasons. As I have a poor memory due to serious head injury one of the extra's that steam provides is a library that I can arrange into categories. this make sit much easier for me to find a particular game; especially as many of the games I've purchased I can't remember the name of, but I still know the genre etc. I have almost 400 categories in my library now, for example indie, which is divided into about 40 other categories indie platformer, indie shmup, etc, or HOG, First person shooter, breakout etc you get the idea. It's actually one of my favorite aspects of steam apart from the sales and the community aspects. If someone doesn't like Steam and has no intention of installing it that is their business and I have no problems with it; that said, I do think they are going to miss out on many great games in the near future, also, the potential to make friends with others that have similar tastes will be denied. Each to their own. :)

Reply   |   Comment by mike  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+2)

Hi mike. :-)

I didn't say I hate it.
Probably the opposite: if I install it, it could become a drug.
I think the same about twitter, facebook, WhatsApp, and so forth.

I have resisted till now! ;-)

Reply   |   Comment by xilolee  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (+1)

mike, I am opposed to all DRM services that require a 3rd party DRM provider to remain in existance as an operating company to provide authorisation so we can use the software we have licensed. If steam ever go out of business or simply shut its doors to you or any geograpical region you will not get refunds or an alternative solution to play your licensed games or use your software..
Internet based service providers can and do close their doors to certain customers, change windows operating system requirements to use their service or simply go bust.

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Hi TK, with respect to developers who don't use clients, but still use DRM, they are also prone to going out of business. I've lost well over a hundred games because certain developers who I've purchased games from have gone bankrupt, or have been sold off the bigger developers and their DRM systems haven't been transferred, For example Reflexive Arcade, who had a DRM system that necessitated having to re-apply for a new activation code whenever you upgraded your computer, or wanted to install your game onto another computer. When Amazon purchased Reflexive Arcade, they gave those who had purchased games from Reflexive approximately 6 months to reinstall their games before the activation servers were closed permanently, not taking into account that when they upgraded, they would lose those games permanently.. The same thing happened with games purchased from Sandlot Games. I purchased a lot of games from both of those developers as well as others who went out of business, who also incorporated DRM, and can no longer activate any of those games without using illegal code generators. At least with Steam, I can actually play some of the game without having to use the Steam client or by being online (by going into the games folder and accessing the games executable directly). Steam is such a massive industry, with over 125 million active users, it's highly unlikely they will go out of business anytime soon. Even if they did, there will be ways found to reactivate many (though I do realize not all, simply becasue some are not worth the effort) of the games, especially the more expensive AAA games. When the Microsoft's Live program was cancelled, there were a lot of big name games linked to the Live program that were left unplayable; for example Red Faction Guerilla, where you could no longer save game progress, or the Microsoft Flight game that was supposed to supersede Microsoft's Flight Simulator X. Steam fixed both games so that they are now fully playable again. There will always be ways to fix games if a client is cancelled. There are always pro's and cons for each way a game is delivered, whether it is via a client, a hard disk, separate downloads, with no client etc. Personally I still prefer buying my games on disk, but it has become impracticable as I have no where else to place then on shelves, my shelves in the study are literally double stacked with well over a thousand Blu-ray and DVD movie disks. Most of my disk based games are now boxed up and stored in the attic. Even some of the disks I buy, once installed are no longer needed because the games are tied to Steam, for example the Total War franchise; (all games from Total War Empire onward). Unfortunately, because of literally millions of unscrupulous people/gamer's, who stole most releases pre DRM, it was developed to protect the ownership rights of those developers becasue they were losing millions of dollars per game. Unfortunately we now have to live with DRM. I know sites like GOG do have DRM free games, but the majority of those were originally abandonware titles that were freely available until GOG and others decided it was a good idea to search out the original owners and come to arrangements. The majority of recent games, especially AAA games will never be DRM free. I do like the efforts GOG have made to get some developers for example the developer of the The Witcher franchise, to allow DRM free downloads of their premium games, but those are few and far between.

Finally, we all make our own decisions as to whether or not we are going to support a particular game. If a person is totally against installing clients such as Steam, great, that is their prerogative and I respect those people for making a stand. If you don't mind missing out on some amazing games, then again it's not a problem. Each to their own, personally I couldn't do it because I want to play those games too much as it is one of my primary focuses during the day when I'm at home alone because I use gaming as distraction therapy to help with my pain management. It's actually really effective as a temporary fix and much better than having to take higher dose of opiate medication.

Reply   |   Comment by TK  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (-1)

Hi, back from month long summer break here, only to find the same, frankly boring now, debate about Steam.. and benefits/disadvantages (if any, so it seems:) of going 'Steam way', what's more - steady Commentators and Experts telling us here on GGOTD: Steam is a 'FACT of LIFE' for any serious Gamer, and since GGOTD started using it's Services for providing Games here - to win Keys, or get Games for fraction of Price - that in itself became a 'FACT of LIFE' on this GGOTD Site (another being Games provided by MPC, not mentioning other Vendors, mostly unknown to Community here)

What I'm about to say might look 'contrary' to logic:), but to me seems 'older' regular GGOTD-ers still find it hard, or unfair(?) to be limited to these choices ONLY after years of having Fun on this Site with 'none restricting' Game Providers and feeling GGOTD Site belonged to that large, light-weight (regular again, if you like) Family of Game Enthusiasts not necessarily interested in lists, and lists, and lists of Games available (naturally!:) elsewhere. Most Folk would be more than happy to obtain 1-2 decent Games each weekend and if that was not enough - further search for similar Games (genre) would follow on other than GGOTD Sites. What else - that simple psychology of 'LESS is MORE' each weekend - here on GGOTD resulted in happy, grateful Comments coming in splendid numbers before!!?...

That is (I think) what Xilolee and TK were trying to accent above. Am I right?? Finally - as to HOGs (galore:) - I remain grateful to one Mod on Forum here pointing me last autumn to game-owl.com Having said that I'll always pop in to see 'what's what' on GGOTD. Good Sunday to All from Suffolk, UK.

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Thank you for your comment Fran. Unfortunately there will never be a situation where everyone is happy. Ever since the game giveaway started back in December 2006 we have had complaints about the games given away here; despite them being free. Each to their own I say. Personally I have no problem with anyone who dislikes Steam, but I do try and point out the positive aspects of such a system when I see negative comments about the platform, especially as I am now a happy Steam user and enjoy using the client (though I didn't initially), I also feel it my duty to try and support the use of Steam games here on this site, especially now that games from Alawar, Playrix and other developers are no longer on the menu, at least for now. I know there will always be those who are dead set against Steam, downloading from MyPlayCity, or getting too many HOG's or Match Three's etc, but in the end, there are usually enough games given away over a period to satisfy the majority of community members coming here, so I really can't understand the constant negativity over what's on offer. I've always taken the view that if a particular free game on offer isn't for me, I move on and wait in hope that the next giveaway will be one i like. if it isn't then again i wait for the next one without complaint. Still, it's everyone right to complain if they wish, but I still find it hard to comprehend such behavior considering its being given away. It would be a different matter if this was a commercial site and I'd paid a subscription that gave me a certain number of games every month that I found were generally not to my liking, then I'd feel a complaint was justified, either that or stop using the service. Much like the scheme over on the Humble Bundle site, where you pay a specific amount every month and are guaranteed a certain number of games, one of which is usually a prime AAA game, but you don't know what they are before you have paid for them.

Reply   |   Comment by fran  –  5 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)

TK, sorry for the delay replying to your comment edit, because of the way you choose to edit posters comment to reply I got no notification.

Where DRM is built into the game, ie a key with an internal hashing algorithim to authenticate it there is no requirements for the developer to maintain servers for continued use of the game.

Even with server authenticated DRM such that Microsoft use with windows, as long as your windows was already activated you can continue to still use it even if Microsoft goes out of business. Of course Microsoft could stealthaly install a patch that invalidates WPA prior to shutting down the activation service but that would be considered a crime under UK law.

I really do wish you would reply to comments normally that way we can tell if the votes cast are for my 6 line statement or your 47 line embolden addition to the OP as well as sending proper notification that someone replied rather than moderated the comment.

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Hi TK, please excuse the late reply. As I've mentioned previously, there is no facility in the admin panel for me to reply in the normal way. When I'm moderating the only buttons I see are the ones in the image below.

admin buttons
To do as you ask, would mean swapping between two pages and having to do a lot of scrolling and searching for comments. I'm only a volunteer, with a demanding family. I don't have the time to do what you ask. I already spend an inordinate amount of time on this site, moderating, administrating the forums, compiling information for reviews and playing the games (even those I abhor). I appreciate that you are not receiving notifications because I'm not using the reply button. If they added it to the admin panel I'd happy comply with your request, but as it isn't available, I'm not happy adding the extra time it would take to do as you ask.
Weekends have become somewhat of a nightmare for me these days. I end up going to bed extremely late on Friday evenings/Saturday mornings and quite often on the Saturday and Sunday evenings (which inevitably sees me sleeping on the lounge sofa as I don't want to disturb my wife's sleep, who is a very light sleeper, so it is extremely difficult to creep into bed once she's asleep without waking her. I get notified of what game we are getting for Saturday usually quite late in the week and sometimes only hours before the giveaway goes live. It's rare that I know days in advance what we are getting, otherwise I could casually write up the reviews well before the games go live, which would make it less stressful over the release period. Then, throughout the giveaway days, when games are live I'm logging in to check out the communities comments. This volunteer work has taken up so much of my valuable time over the weekend period and quite often well into Monday when I'm catching up on moderating comments that I didn't have time to do on the Sunday it's seriously impacted on my own personal time. (for example at this very moment it's almost lunch time on Monday and i still have comments to moderate. I've been sitting at my computer since before my kids went to school three hours ago, without a break from moderating.

Maybe if I remembered I could make an exception in your case, (though that could cascade if others felt the same way as you) i.e. whenever I see a comment from you, I could make just a little more effort, but my main problem is memory. As I may have already mentioned previously, I was involved in a very serious road traffic accident almost 11 years ago (19th Sept 2005). I was hit by a car traveling around 60 miles per hour while cycling to work on a bicycle. I was left with serious back injuries due to four broken vertebrae (I lost nearly four inches in height, which wasn't noticed for almost a year because i couldn't stand up). Neither the fractures or head injury were treated at the time of the accident and I've only received treatment for the head injuries several years later once they believed me. On the day of the accident I was sent home with a suspected sprain and some bruising and given some co-codamol for the pain (later I ended up on high doses of fentanyl and oxycodein which I'm still taking almost 11 years later) . They did x-ray my lower back (but failed to x-ray the thoracic vertebrae); two of the breaks were visible at the top of the x ray (this only came to light a year later when I purchased my medical notes from the hospital and sent them to an independent consultant, who confirmed the breaks and sent me for an MRI, which then showed two more serious breaks in the thoracic vertebrae as well as damage to virtually every bone in the thoracic and lumbar regions of the spine (thus explaining the significant loss of height), but for some inexplicable reason, the doctor didn't see them on the day of the accident. Three days later as a matter of course, a consultant radiologist checked the x-ray, and reported the breaks as chance fractures (which are considered serious) then he promptly filed my x-ray and notes away without passing on the information to my GP. It took literally hundreds of visits to my GP and specialists, who thought I was trying to scam an insurance claim, to finally get them to check me out properly. I was sent to a spinal specialist almost a year after the accident who confirmed I'd broken my back and it took a further six years for them to scan my brain, at which time it was confirmed organic brain damage had occurred. It's actually thanks to a giveaway member who I used to talk to regularly, who was a pharmacist who advised me that I should ask for some specific blood tests. (he sadly passed away 3 years ago). They showed I was deficient in some important hormones, which then was picked up by my pain management specialist who then referred me to an appropriate consultant endocrinologist. That was 7 years after the accident that I finally got them to give me a brain scan, which showed the damage. I'd been complaining ever since the accident that something wasn't right with my head, but was ignored). Please excuse the long explanation. I tend to waffle a lot since the accident as I find it really hard to organize my thoughts properly. I've since seen organic brain specialists who have put me through a battery of tests, which together with the CT and MRI scans confirmed area's of my brain were damaged. I now have to inject hormones, swallow hormones and spread hormones over my skin every day for the rest of my life, due one of the area's damaged (the pituitary gland was almost ripped in half and no longer functions properly). Still I'm alive and just about still enjoy moderating these comments. :)

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